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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the senior pastor of the Harvest Christian Fellowship, Greg Laurie. They discuss the true story behind the hit film “The Jesus Revolution,” Laurie’s relationship with hippie-preacher and counter-culture icon Lonnie Frisbee, how he found faith in the most unlikely of places, and the past 50 years of building his world-renowned ministry.
Greg Laurie is the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship with campuses in California and Hawaii. He began his pastoral ministry at the age of 19 by leading a Bible study of 30 people. Since then, God has transformed that small group into a church of some 15,000 people. Today, Harvest is one of the largest churches in America and consistently ranks among the most influential churches in the country.
In 1990, Laurie began holding large-scale public evangelistic events called Harvest Crusades. Since that time, more than 9.8 million people have participated in these events in person or online around the United States. In 2012, Laurie launched Harvest America, a nationwide event using the internet to simulcast live HD video to thousands of locations across the country. With an unprecedented 306,000 Americans in live attendance, Harvest America ranks among the largest presentations of the gospel in United States history. Harvest Crusades have also been held internationally in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. More importantly, some 531,889 people have made professions of faith through these outreaches.
This episode was filmed on November 4th, 2024
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:42) Intro
(3:12) The New York Times acknowledges young men returning to church
(6:45) Searching for a cause is the same as searching for an identity
(10:10) The story of Abraham as it relates to identity and the biblical characterizations of God
(18:25) Lot, orientation, and Isaac
(20:57) Growing up without a father, being the parent to your parent
(24:57) Getting past his broken home with the advent of a father figure
(37:28) Jordan reflects on the the roughness and religious morality apparent in his working-class hometown
(40:52) “Something in me said it was going to get better,” the inconsolable longing
(43:42) The past does not determine the future: examples and counterexamples
(46:17) Lonnie Frisbee — the hippie preacher
(49:37) The orienting response
(53:08) Lowlife friends, exploring the drug culture but finding faith instead
(58:51) Progressive hell and the patriarchy
(1:01:00) Military school, flourishing under discipline
(1:03:28) Chuck Smith, a benevolent father figure and expository bible teaching
(1:07:32) Visiting his father — then leading him in prayer
(1:12:56) The meaning behind Pinocchio, the mark of Mary’s faith
(1:17:57) Being broken and helping others
(1:21:01) What makes life real is death, weighing God and suffering
(1:25:04) The afterlife — a real place in which to do real things
(1:26:02) The reestablishment of the eternal Eden
(1:31:52) “little visions of paradise,” surviving near-death illness and the journey back
(1:34:47) What the Apostle Paul saw in heaven
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