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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with politician and son of the previous president of Brazil, Eduardo Bolsonaro. They discuss his father’s story, near-death experience, election win, and why he cannot run in 2026. They also discuss the wave of censorship across South America and the West, Elon Musk’s fight with the Brazilian Supreme Court, and the true magnitude of independent media which has tyrants scared across the globe.
Eduardo Bolsonaro is a Brazilian politician, lawyer, and federal police officer. He is the third child of Jair Bolsonaro, the 38th president of Brazil. Since March 2022 he has been affiliated with the Liberal Party. Bolsonaro is also the most voted lawmaker in Brazil’s history with 1.8 million votes, securing his second term as Federal Deputy in the Chamber of Deputies. In this, he chairs the International Affairs and National Defense Committee. Bolsonaro is also one of many signatories (including Javier Milei and Giorgia Meloni) of the Madrid Charter, which reaffirms conservative allyship and draws a hard line between liberals and radical leftists.
This episode was filmed on November 1st, 2024
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:43) Intro
(3:43) What you need to know about Brazil’s history: military rule and the ongoing fight for democracy
(14:46) Brazil is more politically politicized than the U.S., shifting the center
(21:55) The right amount of government, liberals in Brazil are considered right-wing
(30:58) Jair Bolsonaro found popularity by stepping outside of the politically correct
(35:03) How the presidential election works in Brazil, the governmental structure
(38:03) Using social media to directly reach the people, how Joe Rogan became the most powerful journalist
(53:17) Stabbed, legally dead twice, and he still won the election
(59:12) Losing re-election, there is no way to recount or audit the voting process
(1:10:00) “A dangerous right-winger,” secondhand representations from the mainstream media
(1:12:59) Elon Musk versus the Supreme Court of Brazil
(1:18:39) The EU was not happy with Musk “platforming” Donald Trump on X
(1:20:06) Brazil banned X and froze Starlink resources
(1:26:11) Corruption designed to outlast change
(1:29:11) YouTube is full of tricks – which might be its downfall
(1:30:54) There is no alternative media in Brazil, Rumble and X were forced to leave
(1:34:27) Canadian Bill C-63, “free video … is a technological revolution bigger than the Gutenberg printing press”
(1:38:46) Baron Trump and the first podcast election, Kamala Harris failed to compete
(1:42:23) The future of Brazil’s political landscape, the 2026 election
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